The obamessiah/mcPain MYTHS are contrary to their HISTORY!

“I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”

— Arthur Conan Doyle —

Well Cricketeers, as a person with many sources of information. I value among such sources the old school listserv. One such listserv dedicated to peace I have an email subscription to has inspired me to write about the issues raised in this posts title. Belief in myth vs. historic proof. I posted the following message with video in link form concerning the presidential “debates” to the peace listserv:

For those of us who have been fighting for years to end the war
and fighting for decades to cut the bloated pork barrel military
budget. Whether there are presidential so called “debates” or not,
simply matters not! Both obamessiah and the reverend mcPain are

These “debates” which exclude all other presidential candidates,
but include the two corpoRATe pro-war candidates are nothing
more then program length infomercials for the pro-war corpoRATe
two parties of the apocalypse anyway!

Please view the following video which shows how obamessiah and the
reverend mcPain AGREE ON ALL THE MAJOR ISSUES! It is very telling
because it shows the co-joined twins of the apocalypse called
mcbama speaking their stand on the issues IN THEIR OWN WORDS!

A fellow listserv member named David posted this response to my message:

My own take: They’ll say what they must to get elected. But I do
believe their inclinations differ, greatly. Obama will be more
inclined to exit Iraq sooner than McCain. Obama will be more
inclined to divert money from the military to social programs.
Obama will be less inclined to start a new war.
And the truth is that they are the candidates who count because one of them will be elected.
It would be great to have the voices of the minor party candidates heard, and I’m all for that,but they simply do not matter very much.
That is the reality, and we must make the best of it.

This is a perfect statement of the obamessiah/mcPain myth. The myth that tweedle dee one is somehow “better” then the tweedle dum other. It is myth because it is as David stated based on belief (“But I do believe…”). There is no proof of this belief when one considers what is known about obamessiah’s and mcPain’s historya and that goes double for their dirty dem and filthy repub parties! That is what I argued in my listserv reply to David:

Thanks for hitting on an important aspect of the debate over how best to use our votes to end the war and improve our government David. I’m speaking of belief vs. rational proof.

In the face of a bloody, illegal, immoral war that has dragged on for five years and killed in excess of one million people. I would hope that my fellow voters would weigh the proofs afforded us by recent history in an effort to make the best possible choice come election day.

Prior to the 2006 election, it was repeatedly argued by many that they “believed” that “the dems would be inclined to end the war.” Many of my fellow voters (though not I) acted on “belief” in 2006, and we got two more years of bloody war!

If my fellow voters act on their belief again, instead of acting based on the historical proof. Come the congressional election of 2010, the war will still be raging on, and again there will be those who will insist that they believe that one or the other of the two parties of the apocalypse will end or “win” the war.

As to “They’ll say what they must to get elected.” Last I heard, most voters turned AGAINST THE WAR in 2004 or 2005. It was the anti-war vote that gave the dems control of both the house and senate! Why would BOTH the co-joined twins of the apocalypse called mcbama repeatedly call for a continuation of the war, in both their words and actions? It seems to me if they were just saying whatever they need to say to get elected, THEY WOULD BOTH BE SCREAMING THEY INTEND TO STOP THE WAR given how unpopular this war is! This for me is the DAMNING PROOF THAT BOTH co-joined twins of the apocalypse INTEND TO CONTINUE THE WAR!

Need more proof?

Both obamessiah and the reverend mcPain have repeatedly voted in the senate to continue funding the war. Both have also voted FOR the OUTRAGEOUSLY BLOATED PENTAGON BUDGETS OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS!

Yesterday the dem controlled house passed a budget in which the pentagon will receive a record $488 Billion budget. That doesn’t even include any money to pay for the war! They will be passing yet another 6 month spending bill to fund the war soon. These biannual war spending bills have run between $70 and $150 billion dollars for each 6 month installment. This is where the dems and repubs put OUR money where their mouths are.

These HUGE military spending bills will sail through the dem controlled house and senate and be signed into law by the war criminal in chief! Just as they have for YEARS!

The dems and repubs say they are for increased military spending and continuing the war, and they make good by funding these disasters again and again!

I’m sorry but there is no rational argument that proves the “belief” that either of the co-joined twins of the apocalypse intend to end this war or otherwise reduce military spending. All proof points to the contrary.

For those of us against this war and who want it to end, voting either dem or repub is not an option. This election is far too important, it being truly a matter of life and death regarding this disaster of a war, for us to vote for candidates who have repeatedly proven, by both word and deed that they intend to continue the disaster of a war and INCREASE THE MILITARY BUDGET!

One final point, what is the sense of voting for obamessiah/mcPain if all the proof says they are going to continue the war anyway?

Your real choice is not between obamessiah and mcPain, but between who are the proven pro-war candidates, and I think I have made my case that the co-joined twins of the apocalypse are clearly pro-war in deeds and actions and both will continue the war.

Or you can instead vote for the one of the antiwar candidates like Nader.

In either choice you run much the same risk.

If you vote for obamessiah (16 months after taking office with the open ended “conditions on the ground” caveat) MAYBE IF HE WINS, and this is THE VERY BIG MAYBE, he MIGHT end the war, though there is no real proof he will!

Or you can vote for a third party or independent candidate like Nader (complete withdrawal of all US military AND corpoRATe forces 6 months after taking office, NO MAYBES!)

I’m voting NADER for REAL CHANGE! If YOU vote for him HE WILL WIN!

The mcPain supporters suffer from the self same “belief system” based support of mcPain! I did my best to prove the case against voting for the lesser of two evils AGAIN! Should ANYONE WISH TO ARGUE that there is any good reason to vote for either of the co-joined twins of the apocalypse. Please do so in a comment here. But please offer some modicum of proof. Belief is not proof!

If YOU can’t argue that there is a good reason to vote for either of the co-joined twins of the apocalypse, and offer proof of your argument, THE ONLY RATIONAL CHOICE IS TO SUPPORT AND VOTE NADER!


The Telepathic Crickets™ on the ClapSotronics editorial board and I would like to repeat that the myth that obamessiah would be any better then mcPain, is exactly the same kind of myth the dirty dems and their apologists claimed before the 2006 election. That somehow the dems would be better in control of the house and senate then the repubs were. THE DIRTY DEMS HAVE DONE NOTHING FOR US THESE LAST TWO YEARS! DON’T BE FOOLED AGAIN!

HEY, mcPain and nobama:
Open The Debates!

If YOU REALLY wanna know the TRUTH about the debate issue CLICK THIS LINK!

To take action on opening the debates to Independent and third party candidates CLICK THIS LINK!

Please send an email to janut janet brown the executive director of the “Commission on Presidential (non) Debates.” Below is the email I sent her. Feel free to use that one or write your own! Her email address is:


I know you and the rest of the feckless appaRATchicks in washingtOOn are busy trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge of a corpoRATe bailout plan to us sucker taxpayers. But it would be really keen if you stopped for a second and understood that “debates” which include only the co-joined twins of the apocalypse called mcbama will amount to nothing more then the left ass cheek telling the right ass cheek that it smells bad.

After all, there is this thing called democratic process! I understand how inconvenient and annoying it can be for you in the CENSORSHIP industry, but some of us are really old fashioned and set in our ways.

We believe THAT ALL THE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT FOR ELECTION should be included in the debates.

This is not a request, but a demand!

I hope your 401k goes bust in the stock market crash…

I really do hope all the feckless appaRATchiks in washingtOOn lose their 401k’s in the market crash!

Don’t forget to stop by our satirical sister blog:

The Intergalactic Times


The scientifically impossible I do right away

The spiritually miraculous takes a bit longer

~ by ClapSo on September 29, 2008.

One Response to “The obamessiah/mcPain MYTHS are contrary to their HISTORY!”

  1. Once again the tink rants…
    1.A flow chart for decision making.
    2.items have weights so decision trees and calculations can be cranked out as color coded reports.
    3.A organised system a open system …

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